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Toilet neither fixed to wall or floor

Posted by Daryl Wiseman, on
Just had a rated people plumber with 5 stars fit a downstairs w/c. He explained he did not want to screw to the floor for fear of cracking the porcelain tiles, however, the cistern is not screwed to the wall and when sitting on the toilet it moves and clunks around. Surely this isn't a 5* job?
Edward Thompson

Edward Thompson

Hi Daryl it doesn't sound like a 5* job to me all the plumbers I know screw the cistern to the wall and the pan to the floor, if the whole toilet is moving about it won't be long before you have a leak! Get him back to put it right, you can get drill bits to drill into ceramic tiles and have it fixed properly. hope this helps. Ed.
Rob Waghorn

Rob Waghorn

Daryl. Before you rate him yourself give him the chance to put the job right. If the cistern is flat to the tiles it should be ok to screw with a washer behind to protect the cistern. I would silicone at least. As for the pan it should be screwed to the floor. I'm sure he's a good guy, explain your concerns and I'm positive it will get resolved. Robert.
Andy Neal

Andy Neal

Hi Daryl, Some plumbers are reluctant to drill tiles in case of cracking them , but some carry a diamond drill bit for this purpose , if the cistern is also back to tiles then the same will apply, if it is not to tiles there is no reason not to get a solid fixing , regardless of this the pan and cistern should be fixed , quite often with silicone, hope this is of some help , Andy
Sam Sandhu

Sam Sandhu

Hi Daryl It is perfectly fine not to screw the pan to the floor or the cistern to the wall but he should have applied a thin bead of clear silicone to both. The pan should have been siliconed all the way round in clear silicone and the cistern should have been siliconed to the wall. The toilet can be used when the silicone has had time to go off (around 5-6 hours). I would ask the plumber to come back and apply silicone. You can rate the plumber on how you feel the job was done. Negative comment affect his future work so it is in his best interests to put your job right. Hope this helps. Sam (eps)
Ludvik Krnc

Ludvik Krnc

Dear Daryl, It is common practise, not to screw down the pan anymore. Fears of hitting pipes, wire and cracking tiles are the most common reason for it, but this those not stop the plumber from using alternative mean of fixing( the most common one being silicone) it will be also the easiest one to remove if you need to have access . How far of the wall is your cistern? As he silicon the pan down? My solution asking him to put silicone to the back of the cistern. Ludvik. My Bespoke Bathroom Ltd.
william jones

william jones

Total agree with you if he was scared of cracking tiles then he could of at least put a bed of silicone down to stop any movement and the cistern should of been fixed you should not pay before you are satisfied there are numerous way of making things secure without fixing things but a toilet should have been fixed down because it carrys a lot of weight

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